'The old order is not coming back,' Carney says in provocative speech at Davos

The order that he referred to never truly existed. It just was never aimed at fellow Global North nations. Basically what Trump is doing is, for all practical purposes, the real reason why Hitler is (was?) the most hated human in recent history and not, say, Mussolini. Fascists like Mussolini directed their ambitions towards non-Western countries and never threatened fellow Europeans, so they all laughed at his big chin and bombastic movie-inspired poses (no joke, his famous stare and folding arms pose was taken from a 1916 or 1915 film). Hitler was originally supported by many European leaders and both liberals and conservatives. Why? Because as a fascist he fucking hated communism and had no problem massacring and/or imprisoning as many of them as possible. It wasn’t until he started being aggressive towards other European nations and bringing about the same colonial mentality home to Europe and treating Europeans the same way they treated Indians and Africans did they take a stand. (BTW, Hitler made no secret of this. He wrote it all in Mein Kampf. But then as now, most people never read the book. Churchill was someone who was confirmed to have read the book before Hitler came to power and was opposed to him from day 1).

This is basically the same mentality that schoolyard bullies have and their enablers. When they attack the more awkward kids or anyone perceived as being different for any reason they don’t care. The moment those bullies start to make anything remotely offensive towards their enablers, however, that is when they lose their shit. My biggest weakness (as an autistic adult) is that I was lead to believe that when you grow up all those behaviors and people will be left behind and they also will change. This… is why it took me until I became middle aged to even BEGIN to have a career or some feeling of being taken seriously. My faith in simply being honest, straightforward, and having faith in others to have some basic curiosity or understanding was my undoing.

IIRC this question was seriously asked by Carney a little while back, and we can in all but name. I don’t think there will ever be a Canadian minister in the European Council but we could form trade networks that are basically the same as European nations with the caveat that there is the Atlantic ocean separating us.

The US is doing a pretty good job at that itself.

Little bit of trivia is that Canada shares a land border with the EU.

The EU is working with Australia to grant non visa status. We’ll be next. The new world is connected, not isolationist. We don’t have to join the EU, the world is bigger than Europe, and we can just make our own co-op world. With blackjack and hookers and all the fun stuff.

I would love it, however we are an exporting economy so having the euro as our currency may hurt but also trade with the EU would be easier.

The US is not going to be standing as it is by this time next year, maybe sooner.

Would we have to start calling it Ourope?

The texts:

“My friend, We are totally in line on Syria. We can do great things on Iran. I do not understand what you are doing on Greenland.”

“Let us try to build great things, i can set up a g7 meeting after Davos in Paris on thursday afternoon. I can invite the ukrainians, the danish, the syrians and the russians in the margins. let us have a dinner together in Paris together on thursday before you go back to the us. Emmanuel.”

The assumption is that he leaked them in response to an earlier quote from Macron:

“We do prefer respect to bullies. And we do prefer rule of law to brutality.”

What the actual fuck, I had to check and:

Also NATO’s sec:

Assuming this is real, is this shit commonplace or are these bootlickers outliers?

Macron has been brilliant with foreign policy. A little less with domestic policy. Still he’s been boldly playing 4-D chess with Putin and 1-D checkers with Trump.

He did… but just one sentence: “And on AI, we’re co-operating with like-minded democracies to ensure that we won’t ultimately be forced to choose between hegemons and hyperscalers.”

And Carney was only invited to be on the board, but it seems we’re not going to be paying the billion dollars Trump is demanding. So it doesn’t seem likely that’s going to happen.

I heard he wasn’t going to join

I watched a few interviews with Carney throughout the election to get an idea of who he is and the policies he might support. One detail that really stuck out to me is he was a goaltender when he played hockey. Canada has a big mean offensive oaf taking shots at it, and Canada elects a goalie as a response.

MacKenzie King. Carney’s new and doing well, but c’mon, best PM he’s not.

Edit: yet?

I think the border security bill was an initial attempt to placate the Orange Turd… I completely disagree with it anyway, but I am not sure it is part of what Carney would have done under different circumstances

So far I am not finding myself agreeing with Carney too much but this speech was solid and some of the deals and partnerships coming up in the news have been pretty positive (at least with the info available)… so there is hope?

Carney’s reliance on fossil fuels does stick out as somewhat against his own book, Values. This is all speculation, but my theory for the reliance on fossil fuels is that it has a history of econimcally strengthening nations (at least if we ignore pollution), and has historically proven to be a valuable and desired resource globally and domestically. Given he is navigating the biggest economic shift Canada has seen in decades, fossil fuels look like a safe, but not neccesarily the right choice.

Okay, 100% with you on his love for fossil fuels and military spending, but what specifically has he done to be deserving of calling him out of “authoritarian bullshit”?

He is an extremely conservative, highly anti-worker, and a lot more authoritarian than you think. Also eloquent? Compared to the competition your average high school debate team is probably more eloquent than those jackasses. Trump was always a trash mouthed jackass his entire life, and it never harmed his crimes.