Europe Pub (PieFed)Shoutout to the time when db0 argues with tankies about left unity. Tankies tell him that if they had their way, anarchists would be killed or consumed.
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Yet despite this, dbzer0 still insists on federating with tankies and catering to them as a tankie bar.
Personally, if a group was actively telling me that their idea of unity is to kill my group, Iâd steer clear of them. Itâs truly wild to me how anarchists continue to believe that they can unify with authoritarians, who have historically betrayed and purged anarchists every single chance they get. Itâs literal insanity to do the same thing over and over and expect a different result.
Side-note, but dbzer0âs anti-electoral stance is certainly curious, given that an anarchist society is inherently democratic.
They also have that stupid-ass disengage rule that they weaponize to suppress criticism & dissent as they slip in the last word when the established approach of simply ignoring responses/ceasing to answer them has always worked without shutting down discussion for anyone else: example. (In that example, I then took the liberty to edit my last comment from an incomplete Socratic discourse to a fully contained criticism, which I encourage everyone to do in that situation.) They seem terribly confused about the relation of liberty to anarchism or whom public discourse is for.
Public commentary is for the public, not their authors: unlike private messaging (concerned with communicating directly to authors), public discourse is specifically for the public to engage ideas & to present ideas (including contesting ideas) to the public. Especially on an anonymous public forum, authors are peripheral/irrelevant to the public consideration of ideas.
By granting the author discretion to suppress criticism of their public commentary, it represses the liberty of the public to decide for themselves whether they get to see such criticism or contribute some themselves. It gives a commenter rather than the public undue control over the direction of public discourse, which isnât liberty. Encouraging commenters to get possessive about their public comments & make it about themselves (which their rule does) detracts from the public interest & focus on ideas. It misleads participants to focus on themselves instead of on the public interest & to mistakenly believe public discourse belongs to any particular individual rather than the public. None of this serves the public interest for free & open discourse to competitively deliberate ideas.
The disengage rule is really bizarre, and they donât follow it themselves. For example, I used the disengage rule with one of their admins, so the admin instead brought the comment chain up in a different thread, which apparently isnât a violation.
So you can disengage with someone, talk shit about them in a different thread, and if they come in to try to explain themselves, theyâre now in violation of the disengage rule since theyâre engaging.
It just serves for them to silence others.
yer tellin me that thereâs overlap between noam âkidfucker island nato aggression donât voteâ chomsky guys and guys also with those exact opinions noooooo what could the connection be
âMaterial conditionsâ mfer trying to argue that real friendship is needed for harmony between two opposing societies, lmao