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No one prays harder than a scientist waiting for a peer review.
I have a crack in my windshield and I feel this energy right now
It figures a religious nut would think itās called a ācar engineā light and not a ācheck engineā light.
Please God, I just ask that reviewer number 2 comes to their fucking senses for 17 minutes to approve my paper.
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So hereās the thing with todayās prosthetics: they kinda suck. For example this 2022 study reports that 44% of amputees rejected their prosthetic:
What apparently goes a long way is accepting the missing limb and living with it. And I guess religion does help with that.
Of course, itās all primitive dogshit, basically early 20th century sticks with fancier motors. Big deal.
We need to figure out how to regrow limbs. A stupid salamander can do it.
Thereās some evidence that mammals never lost the ability. Unfortunately, our scarring response is massively faster and locks wounds down.
A few years back, they engineered mice to lack a gene, to find out what it did. Initially, someone got in trouble for not properly marking the modified mice (via holes in their ears). They later discovered the holes healed completely, including regenerating fur etc.
Unfortunately, it also makes recovery from larger wounds difficult, since without a scarring response they donāt close quickly.
Yes, Iāve read some old books that talk about the ācurrent of injuryā and how you can induce something like regeneration in humans if you leave the scab alone, but only for small things like fingertips.
I suspect, as you say, that you trade one thing off for another, but weāre all office workers these days so we can probably figure out something even for large wounds, since we can just sit around for weeks and heal.
I hope that when this AI craze dies down that we can redirect our humongous computing resources to simulating entire cells, maybe entire organs.
Deep down Iām a life extension nutter but reality had a way to knock that out of meā¦
I mean holes in ears healing and closing up is one thing, entire limbs regrowing is another, and we already know from salamanders and lizards that things can go wrong:
Whoās to say a regrown human arm wonāt have similar issues, possibly even internal issues only humans would notice due to having opposable fingers.
Side topic: I think Pascalās Wager is stupid because what if there is a god and it only sends believers to hell? What if there is a good and it sends everyone to hell no matter what? What if there is a god and it didnāt make an afterlife and wonāt interfere in actual life, so why even bother? What if thereās a flying spaghetti monster out there and thatās what god is?
/rant
Thatās why itās pascalās mugging. Youāre getting screwed for something that, statistically speaking, is a shot in the dark.
What if thereās a good? No, no chance of that, Iām afraid.
Iāve twice asked Christians to pray in Jesusā name asking for the immediate and permanent end to torture, rape, murder, and war. They prayed, and when I next met them they were still Christians despite none of those things ending.
I think religious people are dishonest and/or unable to differentiate between reality and fairytales.
Playing devilās advocate: science hasnāt cracked any of those yet either.
It has helped to improve on those issues though.
True, and the scientific method and results have made wars more intensely deadly; but science doesnāt make ridiculous claims like religions and other scam-artists who claims that if you say some magic words you can have absolutely anything you want. The scientific method is by far the best way weāve found that lets us figure out what is real and what is nonsense - no other method comes anywhere close to it.
Solving those problems is not part of scienceās purview.
It absolutely is. Theyāre sociology problems. Observations can be made on causal factors in society, changes made, effects observed, results shared.
Have a read of the book āThe Science Of Racismā for how science can give a insight into dealing with a social issue.
People who are religious in the end have faith because they are selfish. They will perpetuate a religious belief that overall creates a worse world for everyone living (wars, enforced ideology, etc) in the hopes that they can have an afterlife of bliss and excess.
I guess the monkey palm only applied to current end of torture, rape, murder, and war and not future instances, but I could imagine Iraq war still being ongoing, or if it happened at the beginning of the Russian war thatās clearly ongoing
Religion: āthanks to our prayers we made it possible for science to create a prosthetic limbā
Religious people arenāt bothered or surprised at all when their prayers donāt come true. On the other hand, if their cell phone or car or air conditioner suddenly stops working without warning, theyāre absolutely shocked and dismayed.
My point is that even the most religious people actually believe in science far more than they believe in their religion. Theyāre just too stupid to realize it.
Thereās a reason why āvirtue signallingā was a term originally coined to describe faith behaviors.
Donāt worry, the religious people will find a way to make this about themselves and/or their religion!
God took away the foreskinā¦
Science will bring it backā¦
Iām 14ā¦
And part of my dick is missingā¦
If god took your foreskin, itās because He had a bigger plan for it. Probably the universeās biggest tapestry.
Pretty sure itās just dumped in hazardous waste
And religious zealots will take your virginity. This could mean pedophile priests or pedophile billionaires.
To be fair religion is probably how he got his arm blown off in the first place
ā¦with a bit of technology just for spice.
Religion: thoughts and prayers
Science: thoughts and peers
Thoughts and pears
Ok got it.
Youāre missing part of the appeal. In the right column, thereās a huge pile of money going toward the design and production of that arm. In the left column, thereās a huge pile of money going to a faith healerās private jet. Sure, functioning prosthetic arms are pretty cool, but private jets are super cool.
These religious people didnāt believe enough, they are lacking faith. I now pastor, imam, rabbi whatever its name can make that child grow that arm in no time. All they need to do is give up their earthly possessions and become faithful followers.
I look at it this way in terms of spirituallityā¦ (Aka psychopath minded religion excluded.)
Kid has 1 arm.
Community that doesnāt have the means or knowledge for science helps promote hope and faith that keeps the kid going.
Science does itās thing, as it always has and creates an arm.
Kid is able to get the new arm because the community and faith helped keep his spirits up so he didnāt suicide out of hopelessness.
ā¦The real enemy is the marketing and psychological manipulation tainting everything. Itās not just religions. It rapes everything for all that it can benefit from. Every demographic is observed and bled of all its authentic soul. From religions, to cultures, governments, arts, and even sciences.
Why not foster hope through science? Religion is unneeded for that.
Plus, if the situation was hopeless scientifically, the kid would be better off accepting reality than to endlessly hope for something that will never come. Just build with what he can instead of daydreaming about what canāt be.
All major religions have people doing stuff that is to the benefit of the higher-ups in the religion and is to the disadvantage to the common believer.
But youāre right, it also happens outside of religion, like with capitalism and billionaires vs the working class.
Religion is just a means to keep the plebs from revolting.
Is all the charity that Christianity alone has done also to the disadvantage to the common believer?
Haha yes. In the greater scheme of things it definitely is. The Christian higher-ups rake in way more money than they spend on charity. Churches are often exempt from taxes, so whatever they spend on charity would have been better spent if they simply paid their fair share to the community. Every cent they get is though lies and deceit. Charity is just a way to make themselves feel good and to uphold the image that they are Good Samaritans. Some individuals may be just that, but Christianity? Definitely no.
Bad meme because the kid looks happy in the final frame regardless of what the adults did.
Kai Winn enters the chat
can we stop with this early 2010s debate?
itās bullshit all the way. Science is also used to create weapons which creates record numbers of amputees, and religion is still used as propaganda to justify those wars. And even with prosthetic limbs, access might be limited based on profitability.
the main difference is community support, class issues, capitalismā¦
Science and technology advancement by itself is dangerous if society doesnāt advance as well. regardless of the specific religion or lack thereof.
Saying that as an absolute science nerd with a STEM PhD,
science vs religion debate has been around at least since the 1980s.
/s
1982 to be exact, when Thomas Dolby was blinded with science much like Saul was once blinded by Jesus on the road to Damascus. Itās poetry in motion.
May the Reverend Magnus Pike be forever remembered.
that debate probably existed much earlier. wouldnāt surprise me if some shamanās were upset at those high tech craftmen with copper tools and those craftmen though the chaman was crazyā¦
Letās also not ignore the fact that many modern prosthetics just kind of suck in general. Theyāre getting better but they still arenāt great.
not sure how that field is going, but Iām still upset that a company managed to make working prosthetic eyes, gave blind people some sigh, went out of business, and suddenly all their clients went blind again. They wouldnāt make the code upen source because it was their intellectual property.
they didnāt get into the ābring sigh to the blindā business to help people, just for the business part.
Yeah thatās really shitty, just another shitty aspect of capitalism protecting businesses and not people. Actually actively screwing people over for money.
Guess we will rather see religion fade into oblivion, before we would see capitalism - with its inherent class issues - even show a surface crackā¦ Sadly so Iām inclined to add.
religion is only allowed to exist if it benefits capitalism. at least the organized toxic ones
There are unorganized non-toxic cults? š
Another way this discussion is bullshit and leads nowhere is that religion can also explain everything science does. Oh the kid got a prosthetic arm? Yes, because put engineers in his path, it was all part of His plan. Kid losing the arm was also part of the plan BTW.
religion in itself isnāt a bad thing, fervant fanaticism is the dangerous part.
The atheist movement left a vacuum taken over by manosphere, and other toxic BS. How many cases are of scientific fanatics doing crimes against humanity for curiosity? unit 731? Mengele?
Meh. Itās not like religious people arenāt also doing science. Like most of my labmates are slightly religious (but Iām not lol).
Itās amazing the degree to which they can compartmentalize. When I was doing my post-doc there was a tech in the lab who was a young-Earth creationist. In a microbiology lab. Where we made mutants strains by using selective pressure. He was a good tech and a good guy, but WTAF?
Religion:
If have only 1 hand, to be happy, just have to join them both
Faith healing works. I know because it cured me of my decapitation after I was cremated and my remains were fed to a giant lizard.
Well, Iām sure scientists have never overlooked the impact of social conditions before as they are obviously irrelevant to how the natural world works.
Thank God for creating scientists. Checkmate atheists.
The negotiator!
Not mutually exclusive though I can understand how the Westās experience has led them to that conclusion.
Though there are many scientists in the West that are religious.
One should understand that the purpose of prayer and community isnāt necessarily to improve material circumstances.
Thought the second religion image was suppose to be an Epstein joke
People will swear by prayer for any ki d of illness. According to them, God can cure anything with enough faith. Ask them if god has ever regrown a limb.
If prayer works, why are there hospitals? Or guns?
Amazing.
Okay just hear me out, i know people who didnt commit suicide basically just because they could hang onto a few things, including religion. I think organized religion is horrible just as much as the next guy but there is some merit in religion for people who need a mental crutch.
Thereās so many other things than religion that would work in that situation that are helpful instead of detrimental
Reddit called, /r/atheism wants you back
Religion just doesnāt work as well if you donāt have a priest to molest the kid, this experiment ignores that and is therefore ipso facto dumbo, point blank period end of story nuff said