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How they should have written that line.
Jellyfin is such a wonderful gift. Iâm so glad there is such a good alternative to plex
I recently got into the whole âhost it yourselfâ when it comes to streaming media, such as movies or tv shows. I started with jellyfin, but it turned out it didnât have the support for the tv I have, so I had to boot up plex, and had 0 issues. I was wondering why is plex so much frowned upon?
Personally I donât like Plex because it is not FOSS.
Additionally, I read recently that they have added a requirements to use their service even if you are self hosting everything.
The tizen version is finally close to release. I donât use a Samsung TV but in-laws do and I donât like installing the dev version.
Yeah, the Tizen app will be huge for me. Iâve been dual-running Plex and JF specifically because a few of my users have Tizen devices. And thereâs no way Iâd be able to explain sideloading to my âthrows up their hands and says itâs too complicated as soon as they see anything unexpectedâ relatives over the phone.
Luckily, I got a lifetime PlexPass like a decade ago, before JF even existed. So itâs not like supporting Tizen is costing me anything extra.
This general attitude towards giving up when something becomes unfamiliar is wild to me, because in any discipline theyâre even slightly good at, theyâd take a minor hurdle as a learning experience, plus they have you to walk them through it, so it really isnât a big deal.
This was made abundantly clear when I installed the Jellyseerr app (basically just a webapp) on my Dadâs phone, logged in for him and walked him through this process:
- Use the search bar
- Select the show
- Select the season you want
- Click request
âThatâs too complicated Iâll just ask you when I want to watch somethingâ
I sent him a Signal message in a new group called âJellyfin guideâ. It should be easy to find since Iâm his only Signal contact.
Just follow the guide.
A week later, âhey can you download this for me?â
Itâs learned helplessness. They hit a roadblock they couldnât figure out, and instead of trying again, they just went âwell I guess this tech stuff isnât for me.â And now thatâs the attitude they fall into every time.
Itâs like if someone lost their first board game, and just wrote off board games entirely because they arenât any good at them. And any time they do need to play a board game, they can just call their favorite nephew to play it for them.
Wow, so blessed to be the be the âboard game guyâ. I sure do love being dependable and perceived as not valuing my time.
Is it a nativ tizen app? So far there was a webview which is ok but itâs a webview
I love EVERYTHING there except
I can fix it, and itâs no big deal, but I provide services to friends and family whoâll need me to walk them through it.
Thatâs the stuff where we lose out to corporate products.
They sometimes lose things as well.
And they harrass their users in other ways, for example by randomly renaming stuff to âAIâŠâ or even integrating with AI.
100%
Ads, selling private data, adding AI, cutting features.
I just need JF to be in the same neighborhood as the corporate stuff for security and end-user ease of use. I can do a hell of a lot of complicated stuff on my end, but walking grandma through a change is painful.
The fact that jellyfin letâs you sort your media exactly the way you want without promoting or hiding content already puts JF miles ahead any commercial streaming services. The ease of mind is unbeatable.
I absolutely hate what Plex has become. I bought a lifetime pass a long, long time ago, and ever since that purchase, they seem to have done nothing but strip features I need and force features I donât want.
Now if we could just sort the jf collections type in ways other than by date ;)
Sounds like Good First Issue material! (;
Iâve been looking through the source. I could totally fix it, but I worry no one would appreciate my code chops :) And I think the current work on the db changes might invalidate anything I actually try.
That looks specific to jf desktop, do you have many users using that?
One too many apparently :)
Iâll survive.
On the plus side it actually plays video smoothly for me now where as before it didnât work at all.
Anyone got pictures?
ahhh Iâve been waiting for a new layout, too bad i probably wonât get to use it since they wonât fix the bug/feature that keeps the pc awake and screen on with a black image after an episode finishes (when autoplay off). will be forever stuck in player 1.9.1.
Just upgraded from 10.10. Seems to have gone well. Library scan still going.
E: Couldnât finish lib scan. Reverted to 10.10.
10.11 first library scan will take AGES because of the new db changes or something. My library is huge (~100tb of media) and it took days. Subsequent scans are much faster, like 10-12 minutes on 10th gen Xeon (roughly i5 equivalent) for a full library scan.
Fucking hell. OK, Iâll upgrade again and wait longer. Mineâs ~15TB.
Do you have music? I donât know this for sure but I also wonder if music collections slow things down. My music collection is pretty massive (like 40% of my storage) and itâs a shitload of files to index.
Thankfully I donât put my books in jellyfin because my ebook/manga library is also pretty massive. If the apocalypse occurs Iâm set for the 2-3 days Iâd have power after the end of times
I do. It could be this:
From the release notes.
The last messages in the log are from music lib scanning. Iâm leaving it be for now.
Interesting. I will say music is the weakest point of jellyfin db. Mine is currently good but I nuked my db for the new db style in 10.11 and created a new db, mainly bc of issues within music library. But this went back to like 10.9 and were probably from me fucking around in the db manually to try and override tags. Iâve since retagged my music as it was just the easier solution (artist ft artist got me all fucked up, I hated having 900 entries for like 1 artist who did frequent collabs)
https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/15070
This is the issue thread re the very long scanning after upgrading to 10.11
Edit: also one thing I learned from the db editing and again from the 10.11 migration is that the jellyfin db can get âstuckâ in such a way that nothing I can find will overwrite db entries, even manually opening the db in an sql editor (which makes me think there are hard to find tables I could never track down but db stuff is not my forte so I dunno)
My god what a shit show.
Itâs all normal though. Software development is hard and big changes mean more regressions. You do the changes when needed, then you work on squashing the bugs.
Library scan still going here. At least something is spinning because one CPU thread is pegged to 100%.
Wow.
Ok, I donât have anywhere near that amount of media, but MythTV takes seconds to rescan ~2TB of videos and maybe a minute to get any missing details like fanart, etc.
Similar amount for music - but I feed it the files after Iâve run them through Picard.
Iâve not done a complete rescan of eveything for ages, but from memory itâs like an hour absolute tops. More like ~30 mins.
And thatâs on an underclocked CPU (for quietness).
I found the link
âLibrary scans are expected to take (way) longer in 10.11 because we are now a) properly validating all existing data and b) properly applying concurrency limits. Usually only the first scan after the upgrade takes significantly longer because it will fix some data inconsistencies we can not repair while doing the initial migrations. Any subsequent scan should be faster but if you add a lot of new files it will still take longer than before because of the concurrency limit.â
https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/15070
From the thread for people with more realistic media libraries like yours (5-20tb) the initial scan is more like a few hours. However, if youâre like me and hoard shit expect it to potentially take days
Thanks for this. Good to know! I havenât taken the leap yet. Iâll plan the upgrade when we will be on vacationâŠ
10.11 is still a hot mess for large home media collection. Especially one with images mixed in. The team doesnât even seem to prioritize fixing all of that before moving on building new features. Music collection are also slower and albums meta donât load correctly anymore. I would hold off from fully converting to it if you have a large collection
I do have a large collection and I havenât checked the music lib state yet. I have a zfs snapshot from before the upgrade so I could restore if shit hits the fan.
SWIM has a sizable aged library - wouldnât be surprising with sqlite db corruptions by now - and absolutely no issues smoothly upgrading amd migrating to 10.11. Had sweaty upgrades a few times over the years but this was not one of them.
Honestly itâs a testament to the devs that it mainly worked for most people as well as it did.
Like kudos to them. That was a huge, huge migration to a different library/format and they pulled it off.
I honestly found it much better to create a new db for 10.11 vs migrating. Both took about the same amount of time but the fresh db has no issues and the migrated db has some hiccups like you described (and some others). Main downside is you lose watch status
We were using Jellyfin to watch old episodes of Sherlock Holmes last night, during a break we switched over to playing a few songs I had thrown on there. The interface for movies and shows seems great but my spouse asked me, âwhy is there a shuffle option for shows?â To which I said idk, maybe if someone watches something like family guy it doesnât matter. But then when we were under my music section, I couldnât for the life of me figure out how to use shuffle. It was probably user error, but it seemed strange
Looks like when youâre in a âmixed Playlistâ, whatever that means, the shuffle and loop buttons are removed from the interface of the audio player (AudioPlayerView.bs:148-159). Iâm not sure why that is, but it seems like itâs deliberate.
A mixed playlist is a playlist of mixed media. Movies, shows, audio, etc. all mixed together in a single playlist.
Yeah, apparently itâs top/center for Android and web based, and not present for Roku. But thank you for that information. The other person who responded made me investigate. So I need to find the person earlier who said they program the Roku one, and suggest shuffle for entire music playlist., also make a donation lol
Which client were you using? Android? Roku? etc.
I run the server from Mint, play from Roku client. I have a copyparty server set up on that mint sever as well, and we resorted to pulling up the website and having a 80s competition, trying to top the other but not by much so we didnât go to what we thought would be the best song right aways, which we played from our phones so the other could scroll and look. Hers Samsung, mine Motorola, so both android.
Edit: Just checked the Android app for jellyfin. It appears we jumped from jellyfin to copyparty to early, the jellyfin app has the shuffle button.
At least we still made it fun
For me it was far too hungry on CPU at âidleâ.
I got an issue that it keeps my servers hdd awake even when not in use. Hope they can fix that soon.
I will say that the 10.11 update for me was a freaking nightmare with so different types of failures.
Iâm still waiting the ability to remove seasons without deleting the media, especially since I now have tonâs of duplicate season_xxxx seasons from the major version update, mucking up most of my seasons that I didnât have before.
Oh and chromecasting on the app is still a giant mess.
Still great to hear theyâre making progress.
Really with they would take security vulnerabilities seriously đ
Because they are significant, and broad reaching.
Android TV / Chromecast: subtitles are broken since November for external players. Literally stopped watching my shows.
I found 2 major issues on subtitle for external played,
* displaying italic words in external player subtitle
* if thereâs an .ass subtitle file, no subtitle will shown
Because of this, now I use built in player until itâs solved
This is why I donât update unless absolutely necessary. Iâm only running a local instance so it is less of a security issue. Once I land on a working version, Iâm gonna go ahead and stick with that as long as I can.
Very exiting. Iâm looking forward to the day I can finally ditch Plex
I changed to jellyfin a couple of weeks ago, and my wife and I both prefer jellyfin, by far. Itâs quicker and just looks better. We only use it for streaming local content, never used any other Plex features.
I donât understand why they put so much effort into clients, when the server is still missing so many QoL features. I wish they would finally focus on those, or else I have no reason to move away from Plex.
I put my time and effort into the Roku client because Iâm not a C# programmer.
And I greatly appreciate it! My wife and I are thrilled with the latest-ish changes (my server was out of commission basically all of last year)
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Doing the Lordâs work. BrightScript seems to exist only as a way to torment those of lesser constitution.
Once you get into it, itâs not that bad.
I liken it to the love child of Classic ASP and JavaScript.
đ€ âŠok, maybe it is that bad.
Sir, I posted elsewhere and it appears your expertice may help my experience. Android/web allows shuffle at the top for music. Roku only offers me shuffle in shows. Is there a way I can enable it in music and/or is there somewhere I could donate something small to your time to add a shuffle button to rokuâs music client?
Edit: itâs very possible maybe I have my server or client settings set up wrong.
This is what I see on Android for the client under music
Want to shuffle play your entire music library?
On the home screen, move the cursor over the music library and press PLAY on your remote. Itâll play 2000 random songs.
What to shuffle play all songs by an artist?
Go to your music library and switch to one of the Artist views. Find the artist you want and press PLAY on your remote. Itâll play their songs in random order.
What to shuffle play a single album?
Go to your music library and switch to âAlbumsâ view. Find the album you want and press * on your remote. Choose âShuffle Play Albumâ
You can also do this with any album listed on the home screen.
Or, in the upcoming 3.1.0 release, Iâve added a Shuffle Play button as part of the redesign of the album screen.
If you feel so inclined, donation links are at the top of my GH profile: https://github.com/1hitsong but money isnât why I do this.